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Title: Francis Mas Fukuhara Interview
Narrator: Francis Mas Fukuhara
Interviewers: Tom Ikeda (primary), Elmer Good (secondary)
Location: Seattle, Washington
Date: September 25, 1997
Densho ID: denshovh-ffrancis-01-0017

FF: I don't know how much you know about the MIS, but in most of their practical applications, the real linguists in MIS were guys educated in Japan. They were Kibeis. And that's kind of ironic, because jeez, you know, DeWitt went on for a half a page justifying the evacuation of Japanese... one of the things that he pointed out was that, really these, that these Nisei were, couldn't be trusted because they had all this knowledge of Japanese and Japanese culture, and Kibeis were the worst of all because they were educated in Japan. And it's kind of ironic to me, that really, they took us and threw us into camp for that very reason, and recruiters came in, really, and were recruiting us for that very same expertise.

TI: So they were actually recruiting those who had the most Japanese language, culture, to help them in the U.S. military.

FF: Right, and really, especially the Kibei. If it weren't for the Kibei, I don't think they would have had a successful MIS. And cripes, I mean... boy, DeWitt had nothing but bad to say about them guys.

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