HM:I thought... after the fact, I thought that it was a tremendous success on getting the community together. And some of the people would say, "That was the first time I ever talked to my children about the camps, when we were driving on the caravan down to Puyallup." And so it was coming out of the closet for some of these guys. To me, that was not the case because, you know [Laughs] I talk to my kids about all this kind of stuff, and I used to show them the school yearbook and show them what kind of a lousy place this was. And so I guess for some families it's different. And for them it was a kind of a, kind of a grand opening for the kids to get at least exposed to this information -- and the fact that the parents were even now talking about it. And there were a lot of stories about that. This was after the event took place.

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