BS: Well, I, we started to have school at Heart Mountain. I guess Heart Mountain was better organized. We kids had more things to do. At first we used to just roam around in gangs. I'd say a dozen of us boys would get together and just roam around the camp because we had nothing to do, and so then we would get into trouble, then... it really was a bad situation.
TI: So when you say get into trouble, what would be an example of a group of boys getting into trouble?
BS: We roughed up the youngest member of our group and so he told his parents and so we got called into the police department and we were bawled out by the police chief, but luckily he didn't tell our parents, and so, and so nothing bad happened to us.
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