BU: What I vividly recall is after getting to Tanforan and walking into the horse stable, and Mom laying down her, putting down her suitcase and just crying. [Becomes emotional] And it tears me up. But then I can remember we had to, there were the, we had, I think we had the metal cots. Anyway, there was these ticks, these bags that you had to use for a mattress, and they were empty, and we were told to go down a ways and pack a stack of hay, straw, not hay, straw, and we had to go fill 'em all. Don and I took this as a, not a fun thing, but we just went out there and saw all the other kids out there, we start seeing some of the old, local friends, and kind of happy that we're together. And that, yeah, and that was the first impression. And then just the stench, just awful.

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